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October 18[edit]

Change Page Name[edit]

I don't see "more" on my page to change the title to something unique since there is already a page with my companies name, I need to create it "Ridge (company)" or something similar. Can't figure out what to do without the more option. Can someone provide an alternative solution please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samg67895 (talkcontribs) 06:35, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]

The Wikipedia article Ridge isn't 'your page', and your ridiculous attempts to hijack it for an article on another topic are highly improper. An 'alternative solution' would start by using a bit of common sense before acting in such a manner. Read Help:Your first article, and Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, and if you can actually provide evidence that the company in question meets our notability guidelines, it may be possible to create an article on it. A neutral, encyclopaedic one, not the promotional fluff you have written. It will however not be 'your' page either. AndyTheGrump (talk) 06:46, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Hello, Samg67895. While I'll express myself a little less grumpily than Andy, I agree with all he says. Like many people, you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is. It is not for promotion - ie, telling the world about your company. If at some point Wikipedia has an article about your company, the article will not belong to you, will not be controlled by you, will not be for your benefit, will not necessarily say what you want it to say, should preferably not be written by you, and should be based almost entirely on what people unconnected with you have chosen to publish about your company, not on what you say or want to say. It follows that unless several people unconnected with you have published significant coverage of your company in reliable sources, then there is nothing that can go into an article about it, and no article will be accepted: the Wikipedia jargon for this is whether or not your company is notable. If you can find such sources to establish notability, then you are permitted to try and create an article (though discouraged). You must make a formal declaration of yourself as a paid editor, study about editing with a conflict of interest, and use the articles for creation process - you will be advised to read your first article. Be aware that creating an article is perhaps the most difficult task there is for an inexperienced editor, and it is very much more difficult if you have a conflict of interest.
My advice to you is that if you want to contribute this wonderful collaborative project to make knowledge accessible, you put aside the idea of writing about your own affairs, and try the Wikipedia Adventure. If you are here only to promote your company, then please do it somewhere else. --ColinFine (talk) 09:11, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Samg67895. The tech details of all this are a little beyond my expertise, so I wouldn't normally chime in. But Grumpy or not, I think Andy's first point could stand a little elaboration. His comments got me curious, so I looked to see what you had done. And I was flabbergasted and dumbfounded and a few other "... ed's" that I haven't thought of yet.
So, you've got a company you call "Ridge," and you think it should have a Wikipedia entry. So you take the Wikipedia article on "Ridge," meaning the geological feature, wipe out its content, and fill it with a blurb on your company. That does look kind of heavy- if not under- handed.
But the Mantra is, Assume Good Faith. And I try to do that for anything that's not obvious mischief. So if it had been your intention to "hijack" that article to sneak in a promo for your company, I doubt if you would then come onto this open forum to ask what you did wrong.
I think, rather, that you took the other article as kind of a model for the one you wanted to write. Then, as if it were a word processing system, you figured that if you saved your article, perhaps with a slightly modified title, your article would go in and the original would remain untouched.
But it doesn't work like that. What you actually did was more like:
  • Go into your neighborhood public library and find a paper-and-ink encyclopedia;
  • Pull out the "R" volume and page to the article about (the geological) Ridge;
  • Use scissors or a razor to cut out the pages that present that article;
  • Insert your company prospectus or brochure, and reshelve the volume.
Happily, thanks to technology, while it is now possible to do such a thing while honestly not meaning to do any damage, it's also possible to put it all back to rights with a few clicks and keystrokes. Uporządnicki (talk) 13:30, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Ridge the geological feature is clearly what most people will be looking for. Instead of trying to destroy that article, create a draft at Draft:Ridge (company) for your company if it's notable, and submit it through WP:AFC, as this is the correct process for paid editors. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:47, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Interface issues when I log in[edit]

When I log in to Wikipedia I get an interface that is bilingual where choices I can make are in French. I tried to upload an image (a jpg) but this system keeps rejecting every efforts I made to upload it. It would appear my account is considered to be a French one (perhaps because I live in a French speaking area). Can this be fixed and what do I need to do to fix it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Expatjayray (talkcontribs) 06:38, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Wikipedia's software does not detect where you are. If you go to https://en.wikipedia.org/ you find English-language Wikipedia; https://fr.wikipedia.org/ , French-language Wikipedia; https://wikipedia.org/ , an index to all the different language versions. Maproom (talk) 08:18, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Expatjayray: Your preferences at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-personal include a language option. What is that set to? --David Biddulph (talk) 08:24, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Expatjayray: the trouble you had uploading the image was not due to language. Instead you triggered a filter that stops new users from uploading small jpg files due to frequent copyright problems: https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:AbuseLog&wpSearchUser=Expatjayray. You can upload the image directly via Upload wizard. MKFI (talk) 11:56, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]

I want to list my current company - M/s Jerai Fitness on Wikipedia[edit]

Hi,

Im facing a problem as I do not know how to list my company - Jerai Fitness on Wikipedia.

The company is a 27 year old company in Mumbai, India and we are really interested in creating a profile for the company M/s Jerai Fitness Pvt. Ltd and also our brand Being Strong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jerai Fitness (talkcontribs) 07:26, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]

If you read the section #How I Can Make Page of My Organization above, you will find the answers. --David Biddulph (talk) 07:33, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Also my fuller answer to #Change Page Name just above, Jerai Fitness. In addition, your username is not acceptable, as it appears to be promotional and represent an organisation rather than yourself personally. --ColinFine (talk) 09:13, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]
(ec) Wikipedia does not have profiles- not a single one. Wikipedia has articles, typically written by independent editors. Wikipedia is not a directory of businesses, but an encyclopedia. 331dot (talk) 09:14, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Email as source[edit]

I noticed the article Stephen Heymann sources an email which is not available. This is not verifiable. But it also seems like a useful source. Is there a way it can be used, e.g. with OTRS? --Ysangkok (talk) 10:48, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]

No, Ysangkok, unpublished information can never be used in an article: that contravenes the core policy of verifiability. --ColinFine (talk) 11:10, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Colin Powell[edit]

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Colin Powell - POWELL is a Welsh name that comes from "ap Howell" that means son of Howell as origin of surname from Ancestry.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.117.228.112 (talk) 14:32, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]

If you are proposing an addition to the Colin Powell article, please do so at Talk:Colin Powell. 331dot (talk) 14:38, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]
That information is already properly included at Powell (surname). Colin is not the only notable person with that surname. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:18, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]

(Resolved) Article "War Production Board" has contradiction with dates; needs review[edit]

Hello,

Please can someone review the sources for the article War Production Board to see when the board was formed? In the lead of the article, it says it was established in January 1942; in the infobox, it says it was formed in August 1941. Perhaps this difference in terminology is relevant, however, and they are both correct. If that is the case though, that needs to be clarified. Regards, DesertPipeline (talk) 17:24, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]

The January 1942 date was apparently added in this edit. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:35, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]
User:David Biddulph: Thank you. I seem to remember finding that when I first encountered the article and noticed the problem. But now we have three potential dates. A review of the sources is definitely needed to determine the correct information. DesertPipeline (talk) 17:41, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@DesertPipeline:, the 1941 date is simply wrong, as the Executive Order is dated 1/16/1942. I've changed the infobox and removed the contradictory tags. Thank you for bringing that to our attention and I hope that helps. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 20:30, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]
User:Eggishorn: Thank you very much :) DesertPipeline (talk) 21:29, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Review/ input needed for Template:Socialism in the UK[edit]

Hi all. Another user and I have disagreement over the scope of Template:Socialism in the UK - before any more editing can continue, we need outside opinion on our discourse to figure out the scope of the template/ what parties can be included within it. It would be great to know where best this can be actioned/ where to highlight this on. Jamzze (talk) 18:57, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]

It is being discussed at Template talk:Socialism in the UK. If a consensus can't be formed there, the options include WP:3O and other methods at WP:DR. --David Biddulph (talk) 00:52, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Rian Hughes wiki page[edit]

Hello - I have been attempting to update my own Wikipedia page. I am Rian Hughes, and some of the information is very old, incomplete or incorrect. I have tried to do this in a factual and not self-promoting manner, as per guidelines.

However, it appears it's all been deleted/reverted (as I was correcting the biography) as it was flagged as vandalism. This was a good few hours work, and I did not save the text myself outside of Wikipedia. Could you tell me why it was flagged, and how to reinstate it?

I still need to add more edits.

I have also created a 'ScienceService' (my user name) user page hoping that that is where I post about issues I'm having, but it seems the only option was to "publish" it, so I'm not sure if it's a public-facing page or an internal one! If that was not the right place to discuss the issue, could you please remove it. I'm afraid this is very confusing.

Thanks

Rian Hughes — Preceding unsigned comment added by ScienceService (talkcontribs) 19:03, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]

ScienceService Wikipedia has an article about you, not a mere "page". You should avoid editing it directly in most cases, but you may make formal edit requests (click for instructions) on the article talk page, detailing changes you feel are needed. Please see the autobiography policy. 331dot (talk) 19:10, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Hello, ScienceService. All pages in Wikipedia are publically visible, which is why "Save Changes" was altered to "Publish changes"; but only articles are indexed by external search engines, so others (such as your user page, and drafts) will only be seen by people who go looking for them. Your user page, if you choose to create one, is for you to share information about yourself as a Wikipedia editor: a limited amount of more general biographical information is acceptable, but not anything that looks like an article.
You are strongly discouraged from directly editing an article about yourself; but you are very welcome to make edit request on the article's talk page. Note that Wikipedia's core principle of Verifiability means that an article should contain only information which is backed up by a reliably published source: personal knowledge is not acceptable. More generally, please read WP:AUTOPROB.
Note that the edits you made to Rian Hughes are still there, in the article's history: you shouldn't just reapply them, as I said, but you can look at the version you created and copy material out of it for making an edit request. --ColinFine (talk) 19:35, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Hello again - thanks for getting back to me. I have no idea how to "reply" to your comments, I'm afraid, so am pasting it here. Apologies if this is the wrong place. :) I did not create the original "Rian Hughes" page - I have no idea who did that, but it's not been updated in years and, as I say, contains out of date and incomplete information. Could you look at what I've done and advise? I have just added additional details, taken out some of the out of date material, reordered the bibliography and added books that were missing, etc etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ScienceService (talkcontribs) 19:33, 18 October 2021 (UTC) (Moved here from above section by Wikignome Wintergreentalk 20:58, 18 October 2021 (UTC))[]

ScienceService Please do as suggested and make edit requests on the article's talk page, Talk:Rian Hughes. Please also note that for verifiability purposes we can't just take your word for things. The article about you should primarily summarize what independent reliable sources say. 331dot (talk) 22:46, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]
ScienceService, the various past versions of the article may be found listed in its "History"; one version last edited by you is here. You might copy what you regard as important parts of this to a text file on your hard drive, match each significant nugget within this to a reliable (independent, published) source, and copy each of these and paste it to Talk:Rian Hughes as an edit request. (See Talk:Nicholson Baker for a demonstration of how this can work smoothly.) -- Hoary (talk) 23:02, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Brandman University page needs update[edit]

Hello,

I'm writing from the Public Affairs Office at University of Massachusetts Global (formerly Brandman University). I submitted a request to the Talk Page for the [University entry] to have the page updated to our current name and affiliation.

As of Sept. 1 the former Brandman University has adopted a new name - UMass Global - and has exited the Chapman University System to begin a new affiliation with UMass Global. We'd like to request an update to the "Brandman University" entry reflect the current facts, but it doesn't look like the page is being monitored. Who should I reach out to for assistance?

Thank you,

EdwardsBU (talk) 23:30, 18 October 2021 (UTC) Andrew Edwards Sr. Multimedia Writer UMass Global[]

EdwardsBU First, please review conflict of interest and paid editing for information on required formal disclosures. Regarding your question, a retitling is done with a page move, which may be requested at Requested Moves. Edit requests on article talk pages should be marked as such for visibility, see edit request. 331dot (talk) 23:40, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@EdwardsBU: I added the {{request edit}} template to your talk page request, to get more attention to your request. GoingBatty (talk) 01:07, 19 October 2021 (UTC

@331dot, @GoingBatty Thank you. Is there some element of the conflict policy I'm missing? I had thought I had made all required disclosures of my employment/affiliation.

EdwardsBU I realize that you said it here, and possibly elsewhere, but for clarity it's best to declare it on your user page, User:EdwardsBU. Please see WP:PAID for how you can do that. 331dot (talk) 15:52, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]

October 19[edit]

Marking Draft Talk Page as Patrolled?[edit]

If a draft talk page has a link in the lower right corner that says "Mark Page as Patrolled", what will I actually be doing if I click on that link? What is the significance of whether and when a draft talk page is marked as patrolled? My understanding of patrolling has to do with New Page Patrol, which is very important to preserving the quality of articles in the encyclopedia. I am aware that non-article pages, including drafts and WP project pages, are also listed in their own New Page Patrol queues. In particular, article pages are reviewed by NPP and can be tagged for speedy deletion, proposed for deletion, or nominated for deletion. What is the importance or unimportance of marking a draft talk page as patrolled? Robert McClenon (talk) 02:05, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Robert, the best I could find was this: "the benefit of patrolling user talk pages, sockpuppetry investigations and deletion discussions is low", and I assume the same applies to draft talk pages. I don't bother clicking it (it presumably sends a worthless and confusing notification to the page's creator, so the harm outweighs any possible benefit), although I understand others do. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 06:35, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Notability and references for an article[edit]

After Babri Masjid demolition, Hindu temples, and one Sikh temple were attacked in the United Kingdom. No mention who did it, but one printed newspaper implied that British Pakistanis were responsible, which doesn't have an online version.

1992 temple attacks in UK

Is it possible to create an article on these few sources? Can anyone find any academic or old media archive source?

UK- https://www.upi.com/Archives/1992/12/09/Further-arson-attacks-on-religious-temples/2203723877200/

Mentioned at the end- https://www.nytimes.com/1992/12/10/world/hindu-muslim-riots-intensify-troops-fire-at-crowds.html

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/hindu-premises-targeted-in-third-night-of-arson-1562688.html

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/fears-grow-over-temple-attacks-1562566.html

Shree Krishna Mandir in West Bromwich, which was destroyed in an arson attack on 8 December 1992. £1.6m Hindu temple opens after 18 years (August 2010) describes the opening of the rebuilt mandir.

https://www.expressandstar.com/news/2010/08/23/1-6m-hindu-temple-opens-after-18-years/

ZebraaaLounge (talk) 02:20, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@ZebraaaLounge: If this is in regards to a particular article (perhaps 2021 Bangladesh riots?), you should discuss this on the article's talk page. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:51, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]
No. How is 1992 UK related to 2021 Bangladesh? ZebraaaLounge (talk) 02:56, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@ZebraaaLounge: Ah, I was only glancing at your recent contributions. My point still stands; please discuss this on the relevant article's talk page. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 06:21, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@ZebraaaLounge: If there isn't enough info to write a standalone article about the UK arsons (I haven't read all the sources you linked, sorry, just the NYT piece), is there an existing article for the related Indian conflict? If so, you could start by covering the UK incidents as a section in the other article, and split it off if it becomes sufficiently developed. ⁓ Pelagicmessages ) 20:17, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]

How to group 24 references/sources together under a single ref?[edit]

I came across Siege of Leningrad#Timeline, which has no fewer than 24 references for its first sentence! These are actually general sources for the timeline that follows, and apply to it collectively. How do I group the 24 references into a single clickable reference that will then take you down to the actual list of 24 at the bottom of the page? I know I've seen this done on other pages, but couldn't find any examples just now. Thank you for your help! Ganesha811 (talk) 02:21, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]

That's a lot! See H:CITEMERGE. Firefangledfeathers (talk) 02:23, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Thanks, that looks helpful. Lordy, I'm not sure I'm up to it, but I'll give it a shot! Ganesha811 (talk) 03:06, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]
I have the page watchlisted and will happily double-check and clean up. Firefangledfeathers (talk) 03:16, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Firefangledfeathers: I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong - it looks ok in the preview but totally breaks in article space. Self-reverting, and if you wouldn't mind trying, I would appreciate it. Thanks again! Ganesha811 (talk) 23:49, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Ganesha811: working on it! Firefangledfeathers (talk) 00:23, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Oof this is a messy one! We have named references and Harvard template citations mixed in. I'll keep poking at it, but we could maybe use a more experienced cite-wizard. Firefangledfeathers (talk) 00:42, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Ganesha811: I have an imperfect solution that I'm in the middle of implementing. Firefangledfeathers (talk) 01:30, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Hey!![edit]

my company i wanted to create a wikipedia page seeing we have a movie release next year in august but was denied . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Warzonecomics (talkcontribs) 03:40, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@Warzonecomics: What was the name of the Wikipedia article that was "denied"? ––FormalDude talk 04:01, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]

we created 2 one for the character Bugsy and one for the film Bugsy "The Becoming" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.73.240.138 (talk) 04:06, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Warzonecomics it is actually quite rare for a movie to be notable before it has been released and professional critical reviews have published. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:24, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]

the project and the character has been around before social media, when yahoo was just geocities and probably before wikipedia but we have a decent fan base outside of social media and we look to bring that and some to our pages on the internet etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.73.240.138 (talk) 07:30, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]

You have no "pages" here. Wikipedia has articles, not mere "pages", and those articles are not in any way for the benefit of the subject. There might be benefits on the side, but we aren't concerned with those. 331dot (talk) 08:41, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Warzonecomics: Hi there! When you want to improve articles related to your company, you may post suggestions on the article talk pages with the {{request edit}} template, preferably providing independent and reliable sources. You may not edit those articles directly due to your conflict of interest (COI). You should also create a new username and declare your COI. Also, you may be interested in reading the history of Yahoo! and Yahoo! GeoCities. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 12:49, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Filter for inappropriate edit summaries?[edit]

Is there a filter for edit summaries with insult words similar to Wikipedia:Edit filter? Or are them all have to be reported manually to be redacted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Güherçile (talkcontribs) 10:28, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Remove Banner ?[edit]

What can I to remove this banner from a page? This article has multiple issues. Please help to improve it or discuss these issues on the talk page. (Learn how and when to remove these template messages) This article needs additional citations for verification. (October 2021) A major contributor to this article appears to have a close connection with its subject. (October 2021) Eashleyfox (talk) 16:51, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]

In the banner to which you refer, the words "Learn how and when to remove these template messages" are in blue to indicate that they are a wikilink, which leads to Help:Maintenance template removal. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:59, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Why can't Creative Commons 4.0 text be copied into Wikipedia (which is CC BY-SA 3.0)[edit]

Hi all

I know CC 4.0 (BY and BY-SA) images can be used on Wikipedia, however I know that 4.0 text cannot be copied into Wikipedia, unlike 3.0 text. I've seen Crow write here that 'CC-BY-SA 4.0's terms state that the Share Alike part must be at version 4 or any later version. Since we're published under CC-BY-SA-3, we can't currently meet that requirement'. However I can't point to where this is stated in the license. Does anyone know where I could find this wording?

Thanks very much

. John Cummings (talk) 17:10, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@John Cummings: I found these links. [1] that shows which licenses are considered compatible. For 4.0, it must be 4.0 or later to be compatible. Here is the license text for 4.0, which states that you need to use a compatible license: [2]. So for 4.0 you need to use 4.0 or later licenses. This is not legal advice, if you want legal advice, consult a lawyer, etc. RudolfRed (talk) 18:42, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Hi RudolfRed thanks so much, this is exactly what I needed :) John Cummings (talk) 18:49, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]

How to Setup WikiPedia[edit]

Hello Team,

How to Set-up WikiPedia.

Thanks & Regards,

Satheesh — Preceding unsigned comment added by Digifobs (talkcontribs) 17:50, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@Digifobs: There's no need to set up Wikipedia, as it's already set up for users. If you're talking about creating an article for a company or organisation you work for, I strongly encourage not attempting to do so unless you're able to find reliable sources, and that someone unconnected to the subject work on it rather than yourself. In such a case you should also disclose your affiliation with the company. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:59, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Request[edit]

Hi

I am trying to edit Brampton Carlisle wiki page and add some Weather Information.

The information is 100% correct but its been deleted twice and I now have a warning that I am vandalizing the page.

This is not my intention, I just have some weather data to add to a small local page

Please help me

Thankyou Paul — Preceding unsigned comment added by PaulACrabtree (talkcontribs) 19:27, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]

PaulACrabtree Please discuss your edits on the article talk page, and offer any independent reliable sources that you have. 331dot (talk) 19:31, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Hi, PaulACrabtree. Somebody reverting your edit means that that editor disagrees that the edit is an improvement, that's all. It doesn't mean they're right or that you're right, just that they disagree with you (and it does not necessarily mean that "Wikipedia doesn't accept your edit", just that particular editor). When that happens, the thing to do is to open a discussion on the question, inviting the other editor, to put your arguments and try and reach consensus. Sometimes, the other editor will be arguing from a Wikipedia policy that you don't know about. Sometimes they may be mistaken about your intentions. Sometimes they may have different ideas from you of what belongs in a particular article: you don't know until you discuss it. Maybe you'll convince them; maybe they'll convince you. Maybe you'll reach a compromise. Maybe you'll be unable to reach a compromise, and then you can follow the procedures in dispute resolution. What you must not do is simply apply your edit again: that is called edit warring, and is regarded as disruptive. The process is explained in WP:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle. --ColinFine (talk) 20:42, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@PaulACrabtree: as a reader I would expect to find weather information in the article for a region or maybe a major city, but not for every smaller settlement. On the other hand, if a locality has an official weather station, then maybe we should include that data regardless? City of Carlisle (the LGA) has it and South Lakeland doesn't. Carlisle the city does and Brampton didn't. I wonder if this is a general question that's bigger than the one article, and whether anyone knows of similar discussions that may have occurred elsewhere. ⁓ Pelagicmessages ) 21:01, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Peer review template after page move[edit]

Quick question: After agreement on the talk page, I moved Yuzuru Hanyu Olympics seasons to Yuzuru Hanyu Olympic seasons. However, I did not consider the effects on the peer review page and related templates. In the archives I found this suggestion to add the |page= parameter to the PR template on the talk page, but it didn't connect to the existing PR page. It still asks to choose a topic.

Thank you very much in advance. Henni147 (talk) 19:47, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@Henni147: Welcome to the help desk! All that needed to be done was moving the peer review page to the title the article was moved to. I've completed that and the peer review now appears at the top of the Article's talk page. ––FormalDude talk 00:51, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@FormalDude: Thank you very much for your quick help! Henni147 (talk) 06:28, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Lupton family[edit]

I have added a file/photo in the Alan Cecil Lupton section of this page (at the bottom, photo of Alan Lupton) that is a little too big, please make the photo smaller. Thank you in advance 49.3.146.151 (talk) 23:16, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]

I've made the image smaller. ––FormalDude talk 00:47, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]


October 20[edit]

Article nominated for deletion, and then ignored by nominator[edit]

Hello,

I recently created a page Amplitude (company) which was nominated for deletion. I added a number of sources (Reuters, CNBC, The Economist, Bloomberg, etc) which I think very clearly meet the notability guidelines, but the editor who nominated the page for deletion won't respond to those sources. (They only responded to a few other sources I mentioned to answer a specific question of theirs, and have subsequently ignored me for days.) I honestly don't think I'm getting a fair review and I don't understand what I should do in this situation. It's already coming up on the 7 day period, and I'm worried my work will just be gone soon. Do I just wait until the end of the 7 days and then someone else will take a look? Am I supposed to vote somehow to get someone to take a look? I'm a quick learner, but when someone just ignores my core sources I'm not learning anything. Thanks in advance for any guidance. -- Jjersin (talk) 00:51, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Hi Jjersin, thanks for coming to the help desk. I totally understand your concern since the AfD has not had any participation besides you and the nominator. In this case, the AfD will typically be kept open past the initial seven days until further consensus develops. This will allow more editors to comment.
Since nobody has seems to have reviewed this yet, I'll be happy to take a look and weigh in. ––FormalDude talk 00:56, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Thank you for taking a look, FormalDude! --Jjersin (talk) 00:59, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Jjersin: Hi there! When you would like to get an editor's attention, you can use the {{ping}} template when you are posting (as I've done here) so they receive a notification. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 02:54, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Good to know! Thanks for the tip, GoingBatty! -- Jjersin (talk) 17:40, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]

zellers zellers canada info on wikipedia[edit]

how can we correct the information for zellers , zellers canada and zellers restaurant that is owned by Azriel family trust and Maria Almerinda Moniz Sousa portuguese immigrant from Azores Portugal — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.27.255.248 (talk) 05:27, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Hi there! If you want to correct information about the Zellers article, you may edit the article directly (unless you have a conflict of interest), or post your suggestions on the article's talk page: Talk:Zellers. Be sure to provide reliable sources with your information. If you haven't already done so, you may wish to review Help:Introduction and Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Adventure to learn how to edit. Hope this helps, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 16:15, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Why are not showing my name on Google - Ajay Raz[edit]

Ajay Raz is an Indian actor & model who works in Hindi films. While pursuing an engineering degree in math, he dabbled in modeling and made attempts to start a career in film. After struggling for two years, he made his acting debut in 2019 , a fashion show about t romantic tribulations faced by three young men, which was invited by Ally Aqib khan on Lucknow Uttar Pradesh. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ajay Raz (talkcontribs) 06:02, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]

This has already been answered at the Teahouse. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 07:11, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Furthermore, we can't help with questions about Google here, Ajay Raz. The help desk is for asking questions about Wikipedia, and Wikipedia has no control over what appears on Google. Cordless Larry (talk) 09:46, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Template issue[edit]

Hi, I have been trying to add template:socialism in the UK to Socialist Workers Party (UK) page, however a user keeps undoing this edit as they outline it "add[s] a massive space to the top of the page". However, when I add this/ publish the page I do not get this issue - the text runs around the info sidebar pretty well. I just wanted to see if there was a way for someone to test this as a third party to see what happens. Could it be a device issue? Jamzze (talk) 08:05, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@Jamzze: The template had an extra line at the top that was causing the gap on the article. I've removed the extra line and the gap no longer appears. So I think your problem is solved! ––FormalDude talk 08:30, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Oh thank you so much!! Jamzze (talk) 08:37, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Happy to help ☺ ––FormalDude talk 08:42, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Rahul Gandhi Qualification[edit]

Hello, I have a query, how can someone finish his BA in 1994 & M.Phil in 1995?? I am laughing at the ignorance with which you have posted this qualification.

what is wrong with Wikipedia?

Please correct it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rko191 (talkcontribs) 09:22, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Firstly, you can do a one-year Master's Degree in some countries. I cannot check the 1995 source, as it's behind a paywall. But, Wikipedia is a tertiary source, so we follow what reliable sources say. If you think those sources are wrong, bring it up at Talk:Rahul Gandhi rather than being facetious about it here. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:27, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Rko191: I took a screenshot of the source [3] before the paywall hid it. It says: "The Cambridge University on Tuesday confirmed that Rahul Gandhi was a student at Trinity College from October 1994 to July 1995 and was awarded an M.Phil in Development Studies in 1995." PrimeHunter (talk) 11:49, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]

On student editors...[edit]

For this person who doesn't deal with student editors, are edit suggestions like these here supposed to be actioned by themselves or by a third party (such as me)? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:49, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Jo-Jo Eumerus I would expect the student to edit the article. The course profile says that "this course focusses entirely on improving existing and writing new articles in Wikipedia". TSventon (talk) 12:13, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Jo-Jo Eumerus: Looks to me that the student editor is asking for help with the article. GoingBatty (talk) 16:18, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Jo-Jo Eumerus: I do not think we should ask editors to make any particular change to our normal methods to accommodate "student editors". If a student adds to an article or a talk page, we should react as we would to any other editor. If the student explicitly states "I'm a student working on an assignment and I need help" or whatever, then react as we would to any new editor and provide the requested help if you want to and the request is reasonable. Any off-Wikipedia rules established by the instructor should be enforced by the instructor, not by us. -Arch dude (talk) 17:37, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]

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WIKEPEADEA WIKIPEDIA CORRECT KATE K K KAYLA DORM INN OKAY DTS DESK BOOK LEASE — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.164.135.50 (talk) 20:29, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Please state your question in the form of a question, and don't use all caps. RudolfRed (talk) 20:34, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Billing[edit]

My monthly contribution comes out of my checkbook every month. But I keep getting appeals. Pleas send these to those who don’t contribute. Thank you. Gordy6363 (talk) 20:47, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@Gordy6363: There is a setting in your preferences where you can disable the fundraising banners. RudolfRed (talk) 21:14, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Gordy6363: The setting RudolfRed mentioned is on Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-centralnotice-banners. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 02:16, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Donations[edit]

I wish there was a mailing address where we could send anonymous cash donations for Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.230.50.99 (talk) 20:49, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Hi. It's the Wikimedia Foundation that collects donations, not Wikipedia. https://donate.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ways_to_Give doesn't list sending cash as a possibility (sending cash through the post seems a bad idea to me), but there's a contact address there. --ColinFine (talk) 21:38, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Lewis Carroll and CP[edit]

CW/ Child sexual abuse, pornography

I was doing some researching about facts and claims if Lewis Carroll aka Charles Dodson, author of famous novels and poems such as Alice in Wonderland/ Alice Through the Looking Glass and Jabberwocky, was a pedo and a child SA (sexual abuser), and found a certain section pertaining his concerning history of photography, with claims that (30?) of them were of children, either clothed or not. There was a photo of proof of one of these photos, with a naked child. Can we talk about his inappropriate tendencies WITHOUT circulating it?!? I don't want someone else to accidentally stumble upon that kind of CP like how intentional pedos infiltrate servers flash their junks to potential minors on the servers. Please save them the humiliation, thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by BloodyShard123 (talkcontribs) 21:12, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Discuss this on Talk:Lewis Carroll, not here. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 21:14, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Lupton family[edit]

A previous editor made the pic/photo of Hugh Lupton (in the Hugh Lupton section on this page ) too small, can you please restore it to its original size?, as it was 2 days ago? I could not do this. Thanks 49.3.146.151 (talk) 22:45, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@49.3.146.151: FormalDude answered your above request to resize another image on that same page. Other than that, nobody other than you edited that article from Oct. 8 until today. The Hugh Lupton image looks fine to me. Please clarify which image you're concerned about, and if the problem still persists.. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 22:58, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Please read - Thanks - I am confused as to what "re-size" means - I thought the photos look a little too small. Could the last photo of Alan Lupton be made a little bigger - I know I asked for it to me made smaller yesterday - but if possible - a little bit bigger so that it is the same size as the other pics in the article. Thanks for your patience! 49.3.146.151 (talk) 23:06, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]
I encourage you to learn how to resize images yourself. It's a good skill to have if you're going to be spending a lot of time editing this information, and it will save you the trouble of having to specify the correct image. See Help:Pictures#Thumbnail sizes. You can also go to the edit history and see what FormalDude did to the code. In this case, he changed the default size from 220x220px to 184x184px. It sounds like you'd like something closer to 200x200px. Try it and preview it, and if you're happy, save it. You can always revert your change if you change your mind, but preview it first. If you're stuck, you can always come back and ask for help again. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 23:35, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Help please !! I have failed - I did as you suggested and put on 200x200px but the pic has gone (frame still there but empty - no photo...). Please fix and thanks for eth advice - i will get it right next time. 49.3.146.151 (talk) 23:42, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]
It is only necessary to specify the width (e.g 220px, or preferably upright=1.0), the height is adjusted automatically to prevent distortion. I have set this to 1.0, which is the default size. Further adjustments can made by changing this (e.g 0.9 (smaller) or 1.1 (larger)) if there is a good reason. MB 00:10, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[]


October 21[edit]

Resizing image in infobox?[edit]

I was trying to add an image to the infobox for the Quba Mosque, but the image is unreasonably large and offsets the formatting of the page-- does anyone know how I can resize it to a normal size?


Thanks


Eggventura (talk) 02:54, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@Eggventura: I've edited the article and the image should be fixed now. When adding files to infoboxes, you don't need to use the wikicode [[File:]], as the template does that automatically, so you only need to type in the name of the file. Thanks for helping improve the article. Isabelle 🔔 02:58, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Isabelle: Thank you so much! I always love how despite its flaws Wikipedia brings together some of the most genuinely altruistic people there are. Definitely noted advice for the future.
Have a fantastic morning/evening/afternoon wherever you are,
Eggventura (talk) 03:08, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[]

How do I unpatrol a page?[edit]

Hello. I've accidentally marked Draft:Let's Go Brandon! as patrolled while fumbling around with my scroll bar. It's not immediately clear to me how I can undo my marking of the draft as patrolled, since the page curation script does not pop up on drafts for me. Is there a way to undo this through a standard Wikipedia interface? — Mikehawk10 (talk) 03:32, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[]

How do bots automatically add content to articles?[edit]

Hi! I often read articles about cities and towns around the world, and the vast majority of articles contain detailed, recent statistics about the place's demographics and climate. Here are a few examples of content I suspect is generated by bots:

My hunch is that this content is added to articles by bots, and not human beings. Is this true? What are these types of editor bots called? Is there a community that maintains them? I'd like to contribute but need a place to start.

Thank you for your help. Data Engineer (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 03:34, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[]

The "Demographics" section you link to was created by User:Rambot in 2002. Rambot last edited in 2006 and is no longer being maintained. The "Climate" table of Cape Town was added by a human in 2006 , and gradually reformatted to match the current format. So, there's no bot that I'm aware of maintaining these anymore, only various humans each doing their part. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:49, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Data Engineer: They are called bots like you say. See Wikipedia:Bots. Their username contains "bot". The page history shows who added what. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:20, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Referencing[edit]

how to referncingJamshi jabeen (talk) 06:12, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Jamshi jabeen Please see referencing for beginners. 331dot (talk) 07:55, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[]